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this is David Marler UFO researcher and

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you're listening to that UFO podcast

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everyone and welcome back to back to the

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full podcast my name is Andy and there

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is one major piece to talk through this

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week as there has been a shake-up at the

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dinner table uh salt and pepper has been

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replaced by salt and Nolan to discuss

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this with me as always as Dan he had no

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idea I was going to say that welcome Dan

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that was a excellent open I very much

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enjoyed that I'm really really proud of

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it really proud of it myself yeah

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um so yeah

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um lesson we were going into a

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discussion pod because throughout

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Twitter interaction I asked you what you

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expected to happen and potentially in

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hearings what realistically it was going

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to happen then at Texas anyway don't

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answer that that's the discussion we

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should have and put it out there to the

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listening world for people to hate us or

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like us or being different

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um and on the back of this going to be

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recorded today Gary Nolan decided to go

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viral Dr Gary Nolan to give him his full

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title which he deserves uh at assault

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conference so we're going to discuss his

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discussion points because they are very

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much worth discussing discussing just

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just yet again and it's not a conference

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about salt salt you know no the salt

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Conference stand as everyone will know

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is the annual Flagship Wall Street

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conference in New York City that

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convenes the world's leading investors

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entrepreneurs and policy makers but

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obviously yeah yeah yeah yeah of all how

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many salt conferences have you attended

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like I'm I'm on they give a badge once

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you hit five years and I'm really

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looking forward to getting my badge next

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year amateur I've got the saxo badge

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yeah for for the salt fans out there

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um but yeah so that is the salt

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conference it's salt it's all acronym um

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Dr Gary Nolan for those who may not know

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I'm sure many of you do here's an

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award-winning academic in Immunology

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from Stanford University with Decades of

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work and Research into cancer and

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various different types of cancer

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extremely clever guy you've probably

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heard them on the podcast on other

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people's podcasts and uh yeah he

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basically was interviewed as part of

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this conference with all these different

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academic scientists investors speakers

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and he didn't hold back and I loved that

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because you've got a very clever guy

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sitting on a stage which isn't meant for

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and and he talked and he gave his

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opinion and the main discussion points

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and we'll talk through them

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um is that about seven years ago he was

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two weeks away from seeing a recovered

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craft that crashed but then the rug was

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pulled out from underneath that

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happening

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a whistleblower last week testified to

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Congress and it created a hornet's nest

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in Washington and he thinks everything

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talking points and then there's some

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other stuff off the back of that we'll

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get to because it was from a private

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conversation with someone who attended

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but um Dan obviously you woke up to this

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today saw loads of people what or did

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very excited about some of the things

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that Gary said I saw the 100 comment

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Twitter yeah the 100 comment being that

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think is taken back he's not blown away

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conversation I think where it may go but

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the interviewer just plainly asks him

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look what probability would you have put

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to the claims you're making right now

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and you know that there's aliens here

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and Gary Nolan just says 100 yeah really

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for me it's the equivalent and I hadn't

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thought of this but the Bob Bigelow on

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the Australian 60 minutes when it gets

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statement to make and I think this is

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something you're going to see talked

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about on your Logan Paul podcast on your

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could imagine some of them picking this

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coming weeks and months as hearings take

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place I think this is some big stuff

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um but yeah so

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first off let's jump into that one seven

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2016. and he was a couple of weeks away

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from seeing a recovered craft that

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thoughts I mean that's a big statement

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isn't it that

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suggest that he not only you know that

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he he'd been kind of almost quoted for a

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while to join the program

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um you know whoever made this offer to

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him had made Lou Alexander what he was

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gonna see you think Lou has one just in

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his marriage no no I'm thinking it was

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the year before uh ttsa New York Times

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article you know for going just off of

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the year not the calendar year or

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whatever might happen um

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he lets on maybe has maybe hasn't was he

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involved and you know we could get you

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involved in that and or was it other

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folks was it you're gonna help it off

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Steve Justice connections with those

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types of guys or was it just completely

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unrelated and you know it was a friend

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of a friend of a friend and if Tom

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Delong can do it he'd done you know with

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a cracking back catalog of songs but no

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deal you know scientific background what

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can an award-winning immunologist you

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know with a real interest in biology and

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you know cells and chemistry and all

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that kind of stuff all that good stuff

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what what connections could he get and

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like it's a huge statement to make

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preface and I'm thinking a lot of this

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out loud so sorry if I'm rambling but

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he's got a lot to lose seeing this and

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he does and I saw people I saw some

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and they're Fair they're just the normal

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comments of he's just on the UFO money

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you know bandwagon and he's in this for

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the fame and celebrity and you're like

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I've got a house like um set up here

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from Stanford Dan right and if you look

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at his academic appointments um his

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professional education he's got a

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bachelor of signs a PhD a postdoctoral

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fellowship he's got the boroughs welcome

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investigators award and pharmacologies

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achievement a teal and invented award he

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that comes with financially rewarded not

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to say he's a multi-multi-millionaire he

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might be I don't know but he's he's not

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in a place where he has to go and Chase

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the UFO pound and you know do the

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conference scene and going cruises and

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that's not to say that's that's wrong

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but he's not that type of guy

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and he's not doing it at the Awakening

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Expo this year or contact in the desert

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or you know the palladian society you

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know 2023 he's not doing it there he sat

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at a very serious conference with people

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who are there for all kinds of you know

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entrepreneurships investorships policy

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makers and he's talking about UFOs and

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then saying yeah I was meant to see us

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crash spaceship seven years ago that's a

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big statement and I'm going to shut up

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that's I mean I I agree you didn't say

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anything that was wrong there

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and that kind of stuff you know there

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was crossover there with the government

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kind of you know working with kit green

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who came out of that kind of Stargate

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program which is remote viewing for

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folks who haven't looked into that

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and yeah I remember Kate green kind of

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saying something quite similar that he

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got close but was never read in

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um he didn't have the right tickets or

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some such you know the Wilson documents

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say the same age right yeah like someone

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got close but they didn't quite have the

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right ticket so they weren't laying do

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because there are a number of scenarios

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here one is that you know there was

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access was just denied the other is that

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Gary just didn't have the qualifications

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that they wanted

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um but that seems crazy since you know

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you just read that list of his

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qualifications he's in his field he is a

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rock star right yeah I think that's fair

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to say so

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these are the minds that you want to

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bring into a program like that so it's

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not far-fetched that he would be asked

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whatsoever he seems like exactly the

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kind of guy they will bring in well

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you're right so see what you said there

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though about you know you brought in the

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Wilson Davis memo if he had just maybe

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written down the conversation of what

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happened or the conversations or the

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Memoir could it have been the books of

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Nolan memo you know could that have been

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a thing because here is the guy he met

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and here's who he spoke to and it was

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and then Applebees to use a U.S

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restaurant type I know that's a thing

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over there right you know and he spoke

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to a five-star general a n other who

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talked to him about the program and

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because of his background he might want

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to work on some materials or you know

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biomaterials that they've got stored

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away and they could show him the craft

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where it came from and it just didn't

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happen and then that could have been a

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whole other part of UFO mythology and

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lore but it wasn't written down he's

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just talking about it now so

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yeah it could have been the same thing I

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guess as far as we know I it would be

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great to Ask Gary about this you know

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maybe next time he does an interview

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with with one of the you know the many

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podcasters that he's gracious enough to

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give his time uh they can ask you know

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what's the story behind that how close

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did you get is there a scenario where

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become you know that surely that's a new

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hashtag though the Wilson Nolan memo the

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box of Nolan memo wait so Nolan let's

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fill the hashtags off the back of this

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hashtag it folks hashtag

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um so yeah that's a really big statement

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to make and a bold statement to make for

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because that's the kind of comment if

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you remember when Avila Webb got a hard

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time for writing and talking about as a

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potential alien spacecraft

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and we saw the famous Zoom meeting where

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Avie loeb's colleagues kicked off at him

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Colin all kind of names and he was being

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unprofessional and bringing down the

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name of the Institute and his reputation

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doing damage to it that's the kind of

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conversations that could happen to Gary

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Nolan but I think Gary Nolan's a type of

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character we can see who just doesn't

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care because like he's also prefaced

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this was his opinion he was asked his

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opinion I mean that's not opinion that's

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something that he's talking about

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happened but yeah he's been he's been

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very fair with it

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um I I intrigued by it so when he he

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I've just pulled up the transcript here

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yeah and he says it's there it's there I

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mean I can say this I was working with a

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group of about seven or eight

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of a group about seven or eight years

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ago and I literally got within a few

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weeks of getting access to one of the

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objects and when the people who didn't

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want us to gain access to it found out

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about it they pull up some bureaucratic

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administrative tricks and snatched it

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away he says us repeatedly there

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is it I mean the timeline lines up to

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the Stars yeah I would think so help it

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off Steve Justice Tom Delong Louis zondo

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Chris melon Gary Nolan yeah that was

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that was the time where you know it was

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early on where Gary was you know

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um they would definitely be pitchers uh

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on social media but yeah you got to

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wonder right that that's curious that

321
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maybe he's talking about a tcsa kind of

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getting the right ticket took members of

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tcsa getting the right tickets

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um Lou certainly has you know the right

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clearances and he made the illusion on

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another show that he would know where to

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go to kind of point out the door of this

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program

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um and Chris melon surely would as well

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yeah I mean Lou's probably taught Chris

331
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and his skiff and you know they've

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explored the options of how how do we

333
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you know put a whole bunch of spotlights

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on this and get people watching and this

335
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event uh cell is is an opportunity to

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you know essentially the motive here is

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and Gary said it himself

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is to just change a few Minds you know

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get get some research funded

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um so they can start doing things like

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Ryan policies for governments and like

342
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Gary's done already create a a really

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neat pipeline to kind of test materials

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and see if they are extraterrestrial or

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at least anomalous based on what we know

346
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of Earth so more things like this are

347
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only going to help and it's all falling

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to private organizations at the moment

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but you've got to wonder when the

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government's going to kind of open up

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about the material side of things that

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Gary is talking about here these people

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will want to kind of look at say even if

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it's a wave guide in bismuth or to use

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one example yeah

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um they would want to see that and see

357
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that it's working before they invested

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Millions into something like this so the

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more people we get asking the questions

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from all these different professional

361
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sectors the more it kind of Lights a

362
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fire in in the right places I think

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he mentions a whistleblower last week

364
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testified to Congress and it created a

365
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hornet's nest in Washington I imagine

366
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that's a figurative and not not a

367
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literal Hornet's Nest

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um politicians have wings now the last

369
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thing they need is Stingers yeah

370
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potentially

371
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um yeah but I mean we know our hearing I

372
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say we know we don't know we are hearing

373
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Russell blowers are testifying either

374
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directly to Arrow to Congress a

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combination or a mixture

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um but these conversations are happening

377
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in the background

378
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um so yeah I don't doubt he would know

379
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and probably be aware of names as well

380
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what kind of testimony do you think

381
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again is creating a hornet's nest in

382
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Washington though

383
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it's intriguing isn't it the different

384
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uses of

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I mean you you put the audio up of the

386
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Steve Bassett interview right

387
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um so I can talk about it without

388
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spoilers when when

389
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Steve says about

390
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um the use of the word whistleblower and

391
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they're actually Witnesses yeah that's

392
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the first thing I asked myself when I

393
00:14:09,889 --> 00:14:07,920
heard Gary use that word this time so

394
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thanks Steve Bassett

395
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um he's right there is a difference you

396
00:14:16,610 --> 00:14:15,060
know and I I would love to know in this

397
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case what side of the line that

398
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difference fell on is this a

399
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whistleblower you know find me someone

400
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who can point at a lab door and say go

401
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in there and you'll find floating

402
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materials you know or is this just

403
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someone who thinks they worked on

404
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something anomalous but

405
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there's a percentage of a chance you

406
00:14:34,730 --> 00:14:33,240
know somewhere that they could just be

407
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working on a super secret material for

408
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the government that they didn't really

409
00:14:41,329 --> 00:14:37,740
understand in other ways because that's

410
00:14:43,069 --> 00:14:41,339
not their profession so yeah well it's a

411
00:14:45,470 --> 00:14:43,079
big statement to make and the general

412
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gist of this this whole conversation

413
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really well one way to just you know

414
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giving the thumbs up and telling

415
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everyone start your engines and let's

416
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get to the bottom of this uh

417
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I I have to keep like a little bit of

418
00:15:02,389 --> 00:14:59,699
skepticism back just because you know 70

419
00:15:03,889 --> 00:15:02,399
odd plus years but we're going to finish

420
00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:03,899
with that anyway aren't we we're going

421
00:15:07,129 --> 00:15:05,220
to talk about what you think is going to

422
00:15:08,810 --> 00:15:07,139
happen What might happen what one and

423
00:15:10,670 --> 00:15:08,820
we'll be fair across it as well because

424
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we'll have to give we'll cover the bases

425
00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:12,839
and other people have as well

426
00:15:18,110 --> 00:15:15,959
um but yeah it's it's it's it's some

427
00:15:20,090 --> 00:15:18,120
massive statement and then the other big

428
00:15:21,650 --> 00:15:20,100
one that was picked up was everything we

429
00:15:23,449 --> 00:15:21,660
see or most of the things we see are

430
00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:23,459
likely remote control drones or AI

431
00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:25,980
That's become a relatively common or

432
00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:29,279
popular uh idea that many of these

433
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objects are crafts are unmanned as such

434
00:15:37,490 --> 00:15:35,820
um it also mentions that you know the

435
00:15:39,050 --> 00:15:37,500
likelihood is that these and he said

436
00:15:41,750 --> 00:15:39,060
before I believe in several interviews

437
00:15:44,449 --> 00:15:41,760
that it's the potential some of these

438
00:15:47,629 --> 00:15:44,459
beings quote unquote and these objects

439
00:15:50,689 --> 00:15:47,639
are like avatars and just kind of Bio

440
00:15:52,970 --> 00:15:50,699
suits for something else to project or

441
00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:52,980
represent themselves to us

442
00:15:57,949 --> 00:15:56,160
um which again with the Advent of you

443
00:16:00,350 --> 00:15:57,959
know Skynet the last couple of months in

444
00:16:02,689 --> 00:16:00,360
the world uh you know with the way chat

445
00:16:04,009 --> 00:16:02,699
GPT seems to be morphing itself into a

446
00:16:05,389 --> 00:16:04,019
sentient being

447
00:16:08,210 --> 00:16:05,399
um as we speak

448
00:16:09,889 --> 00:16:08,220
is it so unlikely that in a couple of

449
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:09,899
hundred years or even less than that we

450
00:16:14,030 --> 00:16:12,000
could have something really similar

451
00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:14,040
to go out and Traverse the universe to

452
00:16:16,970 --> 00:16:15,360
the stars and maybe something else is

453
00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:16,980
just sending its Scout ships here first

454
00:16:20,810 --> 00:16:19,199
and we don't know why and maybe that's

455
00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:20,820
what people are seeing but what do you

456
00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:22,440
think on that because it's not a new

457
00:16:26,269 --> 00:16:24,420
idea but it's becoming more and more

458
00:16:27,769 --> 00:16:26,279
popular

459
00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:27,779
well they always say that you know

460
00:16:32,689 --> 00:16:30,899
sci-fi inspires kind of the real world

461
00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:32,699
and and back again

462
00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:38,269
kind of thing yeah like yeah and and now

463
00:16:42,410 --> 00:16:39,660
we're just kind of chasing those ideas

464
00:16:44,350 --> 00:16:42,420
and drones and things like that are

465
00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:44,360
really are they kind of our current

466
00:16:48,850 --> 00:16:46,620
Paradigm right like that's how we see

467
00:16:51,530 --> 00:16:48,860
the world as standard now

468
00:16:52,910 --> 00:16:51,540
but you go back in time and these things

469
00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:52,920
it kind of called other things we always

470
00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:54,660
talk about the spinning Roman Shields

471
00:16:59,150 --> 00:16:56,459
and things like that like you know you

472
00:17:01,009 --> 00:16:59,160
you project onto them the the objects

473
00:17:02,990 --> 00:17:01,019
that you know and understand as opposed

474
00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:03,000
to coming up with what they are so part

475
00:17:06,590 --> 00:17:04,740
of me is really intrigued

476
00:17:09,710 --> 00:17:06,600
to wonder if

477
00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:09,720
maybe calling them drones is just kind

478
00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:11,339
of the best thing that we have right now

479
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,140
and that these are actually some extreme

480
00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:15,360
form of you know biological mechanical

481
00:17:19,370 --> 00:17:17,040
life or something that that's the kind

482
00:17:22,010 --> 00:17:19,380
of one extreme because I love those Pie

483
00:17:23,569 --> 00:17:22,020
in the Sky ideas but do you know on that

484
00:17:26,210 --> 00:17:23,579
I've always been negative about the

485
00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:26,220
whole you know the when people say

486
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:27,780
drones it's just the way people are

487
00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:30,480
identifying or blowing off the UFO topic

488
00:17:34,610 --> 00:17:32,520
oh it's probably a drawing right but in

489
00:17:36,529 --> 00:17:34,620
the past it was always oh it's fake and

490
00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:36,539
it's not real that it's CGI at least

491
00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:38,460
saying drone is an acknowledgment that

492
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there's something there

493
00:17:45,169 --> 00:17:42,480
yeah yeah these are there there that's

494
00:17:46,970 --> 00:17:45,179
yeah that people love to hate uh but

495
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:46,980
yeah you're right it it does say that

496
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and that's that's almost a shift because

497
00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:51,000
it's now something that's realistic for

498
00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:52,620
our time you know yeah back when they

499
00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:53,820
were talking about spinning Roman

500
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shields in the sky that wasn't a thing

501
00:17:59,210 --> 00:17:56,700
they saw every day they were just liking

502
00:18:01,490 --> 00:17:59,220
it to a shape that they knew yeah now we

503
00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:01,500
know what a drone is uh we can replicate

504
00:18:06,409 --> 00:18:03,780
it we can make it so

505
00:18:07,549 --> 00:18:06,419
there's an idea that whatever is is kind

506
00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:07,559
of coke sent us down a certain

507
00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:09,900
technological path and if that's true

508
00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,460
we're certainly following it right

509
00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:13,440
because this is a concept we understand

510
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:15,780
that we can start grappling with

511
00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:17,340
um even though we can't accomplish it we

512
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:18,780
can kind of visualize that you would use

513
00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:21,840
neuralink and send so much data via

514
00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:23,580
lasers to a spacecraft that would have

515
00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:26,220
avatars in it that's not that wild and

516
00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:29,580
yeah you know it's the idea now on my

517
00:18:32,510 --> 00:18:30,900
head you know when the huge UFO

518
00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:32,520
Mothership goes over like the Empire

519
00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:34,260
State Building in a bit Independence Day

520
00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:36,299
if you zoom in in the corner she's got a

521
00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:38,360
SpaceX stamp in the bottom of it

522
00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:42,120
GoPro yeah I know it was one of ours

523
00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:43,740
where I was going through out there but

524
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:46,140
I wouldn't um but yeah two episodes in a

525
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,000
row yeah yeah but you're right though

526
00:18:51,950 --> 00:18:50,400
like at some point the drones we send to

527
00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:51,960
another planet are going to cause the

528
00:18:58,430 --> 00:18:54,059
same kind of stir to an intelligent life

529
00:19:02,270 --> 00:18:58,440
form as we get from UFOs yeah and and

530
00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:02,280
maybe kind of our discovery of that

531
00:19:07,490 --> 00:19:05,400
maybe there's a specific paths that they

532
00:19:09,470 --> 00:19:07,500
communicate and they lead things down

533
00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:09,480
ready to kind of make them ready for

534
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,900
contact and yeah learning that now as we

535
00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:14,640
go what was the probe was it Voyager

536
00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:16,080
that went out with the disc and stuff on

537
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,120
it uh there were two Voyager one and two

538
00:19:22,669 --> 00:19:20,400
you get some different recorders spooky

539
00:19:24,529 --> 00:19:22,679
recordings as well yeah yeah weird stuff

540
00:19:26,210 --> 00:19:24,539
we sent them we apologize for that in

541
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:26,220
advance to any Racers listened to this

542
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:27,840
thousands of years in the future but

543
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,520
imagine eventually one of those hits

544
00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:31,679
some Planet out there in a distant solar

545
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,140
system and they're they're where we are

546
00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:36,080
about 100 years 200 years in the past

547
00:19:40,669 --> 00:19:38,700
that's that's there Roswell you know

548
00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,679
something crashed

549
00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:42,720
it was bodies there wasn't bodies there

550
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,460
was a desk you know played weird music

551
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:46,080
and you know all that kind of stuff like

552
00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:48,000
that's that's someone else's Roswell and

553
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,140
that's not to say that that's not what

554
00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:51,120
Roswell was you know

555
00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:51,840
um

556
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,820
well that's that's kind of wild thing

557
00:19:57,049 --> 00:19:55,440
about as well you know we always say

558
00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:57,059
like why does that crash you know it's

559
00:20:00,110 --> 00:19:58,620
meant to be so Advanced it shouldn't

560
00:20:01,730 --> 00:20:00,120
have crashed that that's what people say

561
00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:01,740
it just stopped but then

562
00:20:06,409 --> 00:20:03,780
Voyager isn't representative of what we

563
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,419
have now in the spacecraft now and we're

564
00:20:10,370 --> 00:20:08,400
only what like I I can't remember when

565
00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:10,380
it was launched but we're talking 50

566
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:13,020
years to 100 years it's not that long in

567
00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:14,640
the grand schema thing so if they were

568
00:20:18,529 --> 00:20:16,380
to build their own James Webb Telescope

569
00:20:20,029 --> 00:20:18,539
to try and look at us the signatures

570
00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:20,039
they were looking for based on the

571
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,620
technology and Voyager probably wouldn't

572
00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:24,480
be they wouldn't line up you know we

573
00:20:29,810 --> 00:20:26,600
wouldn't have the kind of the the same

574
00:20:31,070 --> 00:20:29,820
infrastructure as we had you know 50 to

575
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,080
100 years ago

576
00:20:34,669 --> 00:20:33,120
so I think I'm going to be different so

577
00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:34,679
everything's like a moving Target you

578
00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:36,539
know yeah even like thinking like

579
00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:38,460
Futurama single female lawyer where

580
00:20:41,630 --> 00:20:40,140
they're they're packing up they're

581
00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:41,640
picking up a TV broadcast that wasn't

582
00:20:45,409 --> 00:20:43,860
around anymore and it's like yeah that's

583
00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:45,419
that was old but that's just what

584
00:20:48,350 --> 00:20:46,740
they're getting from us now you know

585
00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:48,360
they're picking up yeah they're they're

586
00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:51,000
still here in World War II craft flying

587
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,380
about in the skies and those kind of

588
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:53,760
radio signals that are bouncing about

589
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,400
and all that kind of stuff so yeah so I

590
00:21:01,970 --> 00:20:58,559
guess just then realistically we should

591
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:01,980
expect over time at the very least to

592
00:21:06,529 --> 00:21:04,440
see a progression in the technology so

593
00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:06,539
it's kind of interesting that we almost

594
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,520
don't based on cases you know we have

595
00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:11,039
sources triangles Tic Tacs going back

596
00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:13,860
Youngs so that's really intriguing I

597
00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:15,059
guess that's where the time thing comes

598
00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:16,860
in but we'll keep it we'll keep it

599
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,320
conservative now or as constructive as

600
00:21:23,210 --> 00:21:21,120
we can be talking about you know crash

601
00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:23,220
retrievals fully intact flying saucers

602
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:26,700
and remote control AI bio drones

603
00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:30,000
um there was uh a listener God not last

604
00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:31,559
night sorry I mean they might listen but

605
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:34,310
on Reddit Dan is a noob not you

606
00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:34,799
[Music]

607
00:21:42,350 --> 00:21:40,190
someone who attended got to speak to

608
00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:42,360
Gary Nolan they said and they posted the

609
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:44,340
bullet points of what they had in terms

610
00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:46,140
of private conversation with with Gary

611
00:21:49,730 --> 00:21:47,400
Nolan

612
00:21:51,649 --> 00:21:49,740
um and they basically said okay so here

613
00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:51,659
for the juicier bits from when I got to

614
00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:54,600
speak with him first one the Wilson memo

615
00:21:59,690 --> 00:21:56,760
is legitimate

616
00:22:01,789 --> 00:21:59,700
what's that sound Joe Joe Moji and

617
00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:01,799
celebrating somewhere Joe Margie has

618
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,299
picked up yes hide you if you're

619
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,520
listening yeah or transcribing

620
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,720
um

621
00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:08,640
I mean yeah fair enough yeah that's

622
00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:11,220
that's an opinion piece I mean yeah we

623
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,740
know Gary knows Eric Davis as well so it

624
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,600
doesn't really surprise me that he

625
00:22:18,649 --> 00:22:17,280
thinks that it's shocking that he's

626
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:18,659
talking about it in this place still

627
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:20,280
yeah you know because at the very least

628
00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:22,260
it's a faith in Eric Davis who is a

629
00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:23,640
friend of his like if you said to me

630
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:25,260
I've got that I've had this conversation

631
00:22:29,570 --> 00:22:27,720
and I've documented it I would go all

632
00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:29,580
right okay it's a bit Fantastical but

633
00:22:33,710 --> 00:22:31,080
there's no reason for you to lie to me

634
00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:33,720
so cool yeah fair enough exactly um and

635
00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:34,980
you've printed off a thousand t-shirts

636
00:22:37,670 --> 00:22:36,360
with it on the front and you're selling

637
00:22:39,770 --> 00:22:37,680
100 each

638
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,780
[Music]

639
00:22:43,789 --> 00:22:41,760
um second one Bob Lazar is a fraud and

640
00:22:46,909 --> 00:22:43,799
he agrees with Dr Eric Davis opinion

641
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:46,919
Bulbasaur is not hot property right now

642
00:22:57,649 --> 00:22:55,850
Johnson wrote his his piece on Bob Lazar

643
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,659
he's always been a

644
00:23:01,730 --> 00:23:00,240
a divisive character anyway just right

645
00:23:03,529 --> 00:23:01,740
now the

646
00:23:04,909 --> 00:23:03,539
the arm of the clock is very much

647
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:04,919
against him

648
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:07,200
um where do you sell another stuff is it

649
00:23:11,210 --> 00:23:08,880
changed at all you still the same I keep

650
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,220
an ear to it but I I would say IO

651
00:23:14,990 --> 00:23:12,720
towards

652
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,000
kind of nonsense

653
00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:16,799
um or at the very least entertain the

654
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,600
possibility that Lazar himself was

655
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:21,120
messed with whilst doing a job at you

656
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:22,799
know where he says he worked um it could

657
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,780
be janitorial but a bunch of guys pulled

658
00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:25,919
him into an office and showed them a

659
00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:27,299
bunch of stuff to kind of make him think

660
00:23:31,850 --> 00:23:28,860
a certain thing

661
00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:31,860
um but yeah there there are a whole

662
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,179
bunch of problems with the desire story

663
00:23:37,610 --> 00:23:35,760
so yeah it's curious but I don't think

664
00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:37,620
we're ever going to solve it I came

665
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,000
really close to having him on the

666
00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:41,520
podcast and then realized I had messaged

667
00:23:46,730 --> 00:23:43,799
a private fan page on Facebook and not

668
00:23:48,289 --> 00:23:46,740
the actual Bubbles at himself he doesn't

669
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,299
um that's what I mean but I came really

670
00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:50,159
close to getting them on

671
00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:52,740
um so yeah I I got all excited then I

672
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,880
was like you've been busy I wonder what

673
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,919
other guy and then now just yeah oh no

674
00:23:59,570 --> 00:23:57,840
yeah just what they send an impersonator

675
00:24:02,090 --> 00:23:59,580
they should have at least called

676
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:02,100
themselves the bobbles our fan page

677
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:03,360
um so yeah

678
00:24:08,270 --> 00:24:05,220
um but yeah fair enough

679
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,280
um he said Gary Nolan apparently all of

680
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,559
this is from our listener but I've not

681
00:24:14,029 --> 00:24:12,419
seen Gary Nolan's rebuter and I've got a

682
00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:14,039
lot of State from him at the end as well

683
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:16,500
that he's put out online and he resigned

684
00:24:20,029 --> 00:24:18,600
from ttsa because Tom Delong went off

685
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,039
the deep end and some of the things he

686
00:24:24,669 --> 00:24:22,080
was posting and was hurting scientific

687
00:24:27,649 --> 00:24:24,679
discussion of the topic that seems 100

688
00:24:29,390 --> 00:24:27,659
realistic and legitimate wait yeah we're

689
00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:29,400
talking about like the tweet and deletes

690
00:24:33,409 --> 00:24:31,559
you know the the bits where we kind of

691
00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:33,419
get that you know Tom is still in the

692
00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:34,860
fire of interest but at the same time

693
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,840
we're just like that's a known hoax or

694
00:24:49,090 --> 00:24:38,400
you know people find the sources of

695
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,049
yeah that sounds like a good breakfast

696
00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:53,520
quite frankly yeah yeah I mean you know

697
00:24:59,149 --> 00:24:55,559
what I'm all for that chat but there's a

698
00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,159
time and place yeah 100 agree um so yeah

699
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:01,260
uh that sounds fair

700
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,760
um he thinks that anybody who's

701
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:04,799
recovered are not actually aliens but

702
00:25:08,570 --> 00:25:06,600
avatars that they created to interact

703
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:08,580
with us he said that on another podcast

704
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:10,440
before and he may have said that when I

705
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,940
spoke with him I can't remember but yeah

706
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,159
I definitely said that it's a really

707
00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:16,080
intriguing idea because we yeah like I

708
00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:18,120
say we we would want to do the same but

709
00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:19,740
yeah it kind of also plays a little bit

710
00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:21,900
into that kind of multiversal idea that

711
00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:23,880
maybe the physics over there are very

712
00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:25,320
different and it allows them to do

713
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:26,760
certain things with craft that they

714
00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:28,500
build here that we will never be able to

715
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:31,980
do very happy but very curious idea uh

716
00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:34,799
next up was whatever it is seems to be

717
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,900
testing us and our intelligence to see

718
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,360
if we can quote unquote peer behind the

719
00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:41,700
veil he made an analogy that we can make

720
00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,340
a robotic ant that can create pheromones

721
00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:46,440
to chemically speak with ants but we

722
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,840
can't teach them how to make an iPhone

723
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:50,640
or if you've seen Guardians of the

724
00:25:57,049 --> 00:25:54,360
Galaxy 3 pure uh pure creativity what is

725
00:25:59,330 --> 00:25:57,059
it says about rocket pure creation you

726
00:26:00,430 --> 00:25:59,340
can't pure creation yeah yeah so yeah

727
00:26:04,010 --> 00:26:00,440
for any

728
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:04,020
g-o-tg3 fans out there cg3 using their

729
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,940
terms yeah it took me longer to say that

730
00:26:09,649 --> 00:26:08,159
than Gathering to the Galaxy Christ

731
00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:09,659
um but yeah no that that makes sense as

732
00:26:12,769 --> 00:26:11,340
well doesn't it and that that goes along

733
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,779
with your thing as well about you know

734
00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:14,880
have we seen that progress in in the

735
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:17,940
technology or even the interactions and

736
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:19,980
to be fair some of the really old

737
00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:22,500
pictures of UFOs that may or may not

738
00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:25,320
likely be faked do show an older looking

739
00:26:30,669 --> 00:26:28,020
UFO albeit it's something up there in

740
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:30,679
the sky hovering you know so maybe

741
00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:32,880
representative itself that way I don't

742
00:26:36,409 --> 00:26:35,100
know and I mean all iPhones start to

743
00:26:38,810 --> 00:26:36,419
look the same after a certain point

744
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:38,820
right you know like the small deviations

745
00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:40,440
in the technology that we might not know

746
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:43,020
is yeah 100

747
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,840
um I'm sure the NSAIDs look lovely uh

748
00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:47,760
there will be big news coming out later

749
00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:49,860
this Summer that will turn heads and

750
00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:51,480
change opinion

751
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,460
you're looking there at hearings and

752
00:26:58,190 --> 00:26:56,400
testimony from uh from others yeah I

753
00:26:59,330 --> 00:26:58,200
mean that's that's why we're doing this

754
00:27:01,010 --> 00:26:59,340
now and what we're going to get to is

755
00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:01,020
they're going to finish off

756
00:27:06,529 --> 00:27:04,020
um about expectations but

757
00:27:09,049 --> 00:27:06,539
interesting timing daddy Nolan doing

758
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:09,059
this piece with what's being said from

759
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:11,640
your your Roscoe talks you know Loyola

760
00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:14,100
zondo online today I said 2023 is going

761
00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:16,200
to be a big year Chris melon's been

762
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:18,360
putting the pressure on

763
00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:21,900
uh one way or another if we get to the

764
00:27:26,210 --> 00:27:24,419
end of the year even and we're no

765
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,220
further forward than we are now and

766
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,080
things are still either stalled or

767
00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:30,080
didn't happen you're only giving

768
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,520
Skeptics or pseudoskeptics I know I've

769
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:35,279
seen that phrase today a few times and

770
00:27:39,769 --> 00:27:37,740
the bunkers and haters of the UFO topic

771
00:27:41,470 --> 00:27:39,779
ammunition and it would be fair fuel for

772
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:41,480
their fire as well wouldn't it because

773
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,940
it's been a big build up and a lot of

774
00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:46,559
people are now putting not not Gary

775
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:49,320
Nolan but that statement as doing it but

776
00:27:55,310 --> 00:27:53,039
lots of people have put dates and at

777
00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:55,320
least time scales on this now of weeks

778
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,539
and months yeah and it's like something

779
00:28:01,310 --> 00:28:00,000
has to happen even even if those time

780
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:01,320
scales drag out you know we've heard

781
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,700
months not years where even if those

782
00:28:06,130 --> 00:28:04,559
times girls drag out because of you know

783
00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:06,140
well here delays and so on so forth

784
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:08,820
we're still talking sooner rather than

785
00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:11,820
later yeah um and I feel that's uh

786
00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:13,799
that's an interesting shift for this

787
00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:15,659
subject you know just that shift from

788
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:17,460
those broad areas

789
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:19,620
same asset borderline gave me a time and

790
00:28:25,490 --> 00:28:23,520
date didn't it I mean he did yeah

791
00:28:27,289 --> 00:28:25,500
um he his whole

792
00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:27,299
no I won't I won't spoil the sea bass

793
00:28:31,789 --> 00:28:29,580
interview I was just gonna say about the

794
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,799
the questions he'd ask oh yeah the

795
00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:33,419
disclosure and and I thought it would be

796
00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:34,919
really interesting to ask people what

797
00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:36,840
theirs would be and get him to like

798
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:39,240
email them to you and yeah I think that

799
00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:40,980
would just be really interesting uh that

800
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:42,900
would be a wide swath of them

801
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:47,810
with it being sooner rather than later

802
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,340
we need to start thinking about what a

803
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:52,080
kind of post-exclosure world looks like

804
00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:53,940
and the first things we want to start

805
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:56,279
doing as kind of Advocates of this

806
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,840
subject

807
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,000
um when that inevitably happens because

808
00:29:03,470 --> 00:29:01,919
it does feel inevitable now you know no

809
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,480
matter what the Skeptics say this

810
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,520
snowball is rolling the the ketchup's

811
00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:07,200
out of the ball you know

812
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,480
I'll I'll get back to that when I tell

813
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:11,279
you my what I think will happen my least

814
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:12,600
likely my most likely right because

815
00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:14,400
there's a conversation here about what

816
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:15,779
that actually means in terms of a

817
00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:18,600
disclosure world right and there's the

818
00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:19,799
one that still takes a hundred years

819
00:29:27,529 --> 00:29:24,950
um next up I know when you'll agree with

820
00:29:31,490 --> 00:29:27,539
graham Randall one he said Rick Doherty

821
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,500
is full of BS apparently so

822
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:32,399
um

823
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:35,220
I don't know that's an opinion perfect

824
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,399
if people know or haven't heard is

825
00:29:42,889 --> 00:29:40,860
well-known or labeled disinformation

826
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,899
agent because he confirmed himself he

827
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:45,120
was a disinformation agent

828
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:45,919
um

829
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:49,440
yeah as a funny one I've never spoke to

830
00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:51,240
him I've never met him Dan you did

831
00:29:55,549 --> 00:29:53,460
briefly Graham Randall spoke to him he

832
00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:55,559
said he was quite an amiable chat you

833
00:30:03,049 --> 00:29:56,520
know

834
00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:03,059
didn't he but yeah yeah yeah so yeah

835
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:04,679
personal opinion on the guy that's

836
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:07,500
that's uh Dr Gary Nolan's opinion he

837
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,640
would know him probably better than we

838
00:30:13,070 --> 00:30:11,039
would or in more detail

839
00:30:15,649 --> 00:30:13,080
um another he spoke about was that Dr

840
00:30:18,529 --> 00:30:15,659
Avila went from a non-believer to fully

841
00:30:20,029 --> 00:30:18,539
believing ET is here in under a year due

842
00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:20,039
to all the groundwork that's been laid

843
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,200
out evidence-wise

844
00:30:25,210 --> 00:30:24,240
okay where do you set on on Avila

845
00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:25,220
because

846
00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:27,480
again he's been divisive hasn't he

847
00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:29,399
depending on where we're at in the

848
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:31,620
calendar yeah some people think he's not

849
00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:32,880
doing enough other people think he's

850
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:34,440
doing too little

851
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:37,500
um I'm I'm a big fan in terms of you

852
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,020
know he he he's an open-minded thinker

853
00:30:44,330 --> 00:30:42,480
but there's a logic to his thinking so

854
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,340
he he goes through the scientific method

855
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:46,559
very much like Gary but Gary is just you

856
00:30:51,169 --> 00:30:48,600
know a bit bowler about what he likes to

857
00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:51,179
say yeah Avi kind of likes to leave

858
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:53,399
people with questions

859
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:55,980
um that they want to do science to kind

860
00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:58,320
of solve so it's always very practical

861
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,120
with Abby you know like what can we

862
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:02,159
start looking at oh the data with birds

863
00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:03,539
isn't ours will give it to the bird

864
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:05,640
enthusiasts we'll look at the anomalous

865
00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:07,740
stuff but he almost won't even say

866
00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:09,240
anomalous right it's very very good

867
00:31:12,769 --> 00:31:11,100
perspective you'd never hear him saying

868
00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:12,779
this 100 thing

869
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,179
so I I mean I I would just love to ask

870
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:17,279
Abby the same question you know do you

871
00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:18,960
believe extraterrestrials visits to the

872
00:31:22,909 --> 00:31:21,659
planet what's the percentage and he'd

873
00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:22,919
probably be willing to answer but I

874
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:24,120
can't imagine it would be a hundred

875
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:26,100
percent no and about 10 minute long

876
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:28,679
answer as well at the end of it you're

877
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:30,120
still not sure if he's answered it you

878
00:31:33,289 --> 00:31:31,919
have to go back and dissect it yeah it

879
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:33,299
sounded it sounded really good and this

880
00:31:36,350 --> 00:31:34,740
is a great story to happen yeah you're

881
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:36,360
right

882
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,260
um

883
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,600
he said there may be various factions

884
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:42,240
here of whatever we are dealing with so

885
00:31:46,250 --> 00:31:44,460
it isn't likely one into their species I

886
00:31:47,510 --> 00:31:46,260
think we would both agree with that we

887
00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:47,520
may have visitors coming from other

888
00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:49,020
planets some of them maybe from here

889
00:31:52,909 --> 00:31:50,820
already some of them maybe from

890
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:52,919
somewhere else we can't even comprehend

891
00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:55,320
but all of the above yeah but we've

892
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,059
spoken about that before haven't we yeah

893
00:32:02,450 --> 00:31:59,279
absolutely uh I think it was there was a

894
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,460
setting paper that said basically

895
00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:04,559
if you think of the sky as the ocean

896
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,140
we've looked through like but a glass of

897
00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:09,360
it and to say that there are no fish in

898
00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:10,740
the ocean after looking through a glass

899
00:32:15,889 --> 00:32:14,340
of water from the ocean is just idiocy

900
00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:15,899
absolutely

901
00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:17,820
um trusted names on the topic include

902
00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:20,340
Stanton Friedman uh who just had his

903
00:32:24,649 --> 00:32:22,260
anniversary of his passing recently um

904
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:24,659
Jacques Valley he had a low opinion of

905
00:32:28,669 --> 00:32:26,700
new deGrasse Tyson shackville is an

906
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,679
interesting one and we've not talked too

907
00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:30,000
much about it

908
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:32,039
true there's not there's not a lot to

909
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:33,720
see I don't think on it really but I

910
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:35,580
suppose we can touch on it now

911
00:32:42,289 --> 00:32:39,840
um he was called in a question in terms

912
00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:42,299
of his work with Piola Harris on the

913
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:44,700
Trinity UFO case and the research that

914
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:46,980
got into behind it was that from D Dean

915
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,620
Johnson as well it was yeah yeah and I

916
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:51,360
remember when this happened you and I

917
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,320
spoke about because we were both

918
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:54,000
surprised we were expecting a jack valet

919
00:32:58,130 --> 00:32:55,980
book and then it was Paula Harris and

920
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,140
Jackson everyone was I I was just a bit

921
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:59,760
like oh okay

922
00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:01,260
um and I remember us talking about it

923
00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:03,240
and you know Paula came on the podcast

924
00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:05,159
and she she was very amicable to read

925
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:07,799
really lovely for you to talk to

926
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:10,200
um but now with this and and I I'd love

927
00:33:12,769 --> 00:33:11,520
to hear them talk about it you know

928
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,779
they're not the kind of people that

929
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,159
would shy away from answering to what

930
00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:16,380
the uh Douglas T Johnson had had to ask

931
00:33:21,409 --> 00:33:19,559
so yeah I think the issue with it for me

932
00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:21,419
um and that's that's people might look

933
00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:24,899
at it oh it's lazy potentially but

934
00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:27,659
it's going into the minutiae of people's

935
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:30,899
backgrounds and digging into records and

936
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:32,220
you know

937
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:36,000
I I'm not a investigative journalist and

938
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:37,860
this takes a particular type of person

939
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:39,899
who can really go into the fine granular

940
00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:42,600
details of a story but then find 10

941
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,820
other aspects of the story and basically

942
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,799
they've picked apart the Jose Padilla

943
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:49,200
and others involved aren't who they say

944
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:50,880
they were and they basically created a

945
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,260
fictionalized version of what happened

946
00:33:57,529 --> 00:33:54,720
and went along with that story

947
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:57,539
my my issue with the whole thing I

948
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,399
always took it just at face value that

949
00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:02,159
you know Jacques and Payola done their

950
00:34:05,149 --> 00:34:03,480
groundwork

951
00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:05,159
um and I asked Paola this and never

952
00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:06,779
really got a good answer that I was

953
00:34:10,669 --> 00:34:07,980
happy with and I really should have dug

954
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,679
deeper on it was her point was that

955
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:12,480
these were children and it was the

956
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:14,040
testimony of children

957
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:16,879
and I was it wasn't though these were

958
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:19,080
elderly adults telling you about

959
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:20,580
something that happened when they were

960
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:21,480
kids

961
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:23,460
as opposed to the aerial phenomenon

962
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,980
documentary where we see the footage of

963
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:27,599
the children talking about the instant

964
00:34:31,609 --> 00:34:29,460
in the schoolyard yeah and what they

965
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,619
witnessed we actually see that we don't

966
00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:34,560
have that the aerial skill stuff has

967
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:37,080
almost no impact in modern day if four

968
00:34:41,329 --> 00:34:39,300
of them came forward now having never

969
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:41,339
talked about it or mentioned it and as

970
00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:43,560
adults called as they saw a flying

971
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:45,480
saucer in the schoolyard 30 or 40 years

972
00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:47,520
ago doesn't happen there's no

973
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,560
documentary it's not a big deal it's a

974
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:51,599
cliff it's a cliff note that's it

975
00:34:55,129 --> 00:34:53,220
um and that's sort of what happened with

976
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,139
the Trinity stuff where it was people

977
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,599
who were far far older who came forward

978
00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:59,040
to see when they were kids something

979
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:01,260
amazing happened not that there wasn't a

980
00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:03,060
lot of research and groundwork done by

981
00:35:07,370 --> 00:35:05,220
Jacques and Paola but it just seems

982
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,380
there are questions around the character

983
00:35:12,290 --> 00:35:09,359
of some of the witnesses going back so

984
00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:12,300
that was that was that and I'm not well

985
00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:15,300
informed enough to to comment on it

986
00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:16,740
um and I don't think I could be to be

987
00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:18,119
honest because you just have to pick a

988
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:20,760
side with that one really and yeah I

989
00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:23,839
like UFOs not character assassinations

990
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,820
but that's well put uh Gary said insult

991
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,800
believe the data not the conclusions and

992
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:30,960
I think here you know we're reading

993
00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:33,660
Dean's conclusions and he's presented a

994
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:35,940
lot of the data along with it but you

995
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,260
know I I haven't been through it with a

996
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,839
fine tooth comb uh so I wouldn't like to

997
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,760
say but I just know that they would be

998
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,440
happy answering questions about it so

999
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:45,359
I'd love to hear them asked you know

1000
00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:46,740
stuff like that and if people are

1001
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,540
uninterested how I look at that I'll

1002
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,640
look at it and go oh I know the story

1003
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,320
really interesting that'd be really cool

1004
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:54,240
if that did happen here's some work from

1005
00:35:58,730 --> 00:35:56,460
Jack and Paula putting forward and then

1006
00:36:00,410 --> 00:35:58,740
now I know there's a serious journalist

1007
00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:00,420
and researcher who's done some work to

1008
00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:02,460
say actually we could call on decretion

1009
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,920
the whole story being a hoax because of

1010
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:06,480
questionable practices and backgrounds

1011
00:36:10,849 --> 00:36:08,460
of a few Witnesses and it's enough for

1012
00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:10,859
me to go I'll let other people do the

1013
00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:13,260
work to work out if there's something to

1014
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:15,900
it or not in I've always felt away under

1015
00:36:22,849 --> 00:36:19,560
my it'd be cool but who knows pile yeah

1016
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:22,859
exactly there are there's a certain

1017
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,660
because of the things that I've seen in

1018
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:27,359
the sky that I think were anomalous it I

1019
00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:28,920
I always feel silly telling someone

1020
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,540
their experience didn't happen unless

1021
00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:32,160
they're very obviously trying to pull a

1022
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,300
hoax

1023
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,040
um yeah center around the side of you

1024
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:37,200
know just listen to people that doesn't

1025
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:39,780
take much 100

1026
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:42,720
um also to I think the last part was I

1027
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,700
uh Gary Nolan says I also met another

1028
00:36:48,109 --> 00:36:46,560
gentleman who was attending who said he

1029
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:48,119
used to work at NORAD oh wait no sorry

1030
00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:50,760
scrap that it was the last The Listener

1031
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,960
stops in the list now that's very

1032
00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:53,520
egotistical

1033
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,839
um the person who attended the

1034
00:36:59,329 --> 00:36:56,640
conference who was making these notes

1035
00:37:00,829 --> 00:36:59,339
says he also met another gentleman who

1036
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:00,839
was attending who said he used to work

1037
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:03,480
at NORAD using AI to track Hypersonic

1038
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:05,640
UFOs and they saw them all the time

1039
00:37:10,609 --> 00:37:08,880
purely anecdotal cool anecdote but

1040
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:10,619
there's yeah that's that's all you can

1041
00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:12,660
really say about that I mean to that I

1042
00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:15,240
would say you know you can go on a

1043
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:17,220
website that tracks satellites and

1044
00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:18,780
there's a lot of data from American

1045
00:37:23,390 --> 00:37:21,660
systems where they will show you what I

1046
00:37:25,130 --> 00:37:23,400
call kind of sometimes uncorrelated

1047
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,140
targets which means they don't know what

1048
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,880
they are which means the UFOs so

1049
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,320
technically you can see the Nora

1050
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:30,119
tracking system online tracking a bunch

1051
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:31,680
of UFOs

1052
00:37:36,829 --> 00:37:34,940
um but no no Hypersonic you know

1053
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:36,839
I know

1054
00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:38,940
but only that portion and they were of

1055
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:40,020
course satellites that they don't tell

1056
00:37:42,589 --> 00:37:41,280
you were up there because they're

1057
00:37:44,329 --> 00:37:42,599
Ministry satellites and things like that

1058
00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:44,339
but again none of those are Hypersonic

1059
00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:46,140
so if we're seeing those movements and

1060
00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:46,859
things

1061
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:49,560
um I I really want that data out there

1062
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,720
done do you want to hear Gary's uh

1063
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,240
statement he made on Reddit uh to kind

1064
00:38:00,170 --> 00:37:56,640
of back up what what's been said after

1065
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,180
all this go for it he says and I quote I

1066
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,160
guess I am surprised anything I said is

1067
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,079
surprising to anyone people have been

1068
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:05,760
talking about the entire matter for

1069
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,740
decades Ross coltar and George and I

1070
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:09,119
have been talking about it on their

1071
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:11,280
shows as well as many others Richard

1072
00:38:15,650 --> 00:38:13,079
Dolan has written entire books about it

1073
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:15,660
conferences are held on at UAP dedicated

1074
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,940
conferences it was probably news to many

1075
00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:19,680
in the audience if they've ignored it on

1076
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,660
Netflix documentaries or otherwise not

1077
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:23,760
part of the echo chamber we'll have to

1078
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,380
see if Congress decides to bring more

1079
00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:27,900
information forward or context things in

1080
00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:30,300
a way that is significant I personally

1081
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:32,280
doubt that if any public scientist gets

1082
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:33,839
access to the materials that we'll see

1083
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,180
the light of day before March study and

1084
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:38,400
maybe a publication and directly

1085
00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:40,380
referencing it I'd like to Hope an

1086
00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:41,940
advocate otherwise in the meantime

1087
00:38:45,710 --> 00:38:44,280
aviloeb's Galileo project is a best of

1088
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,720
class approach

1089
00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:47,760
Fair comment and he also prefaced what

1090
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,619
he'd said on Twitter by saying he was

1091
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,839
asked his opinion on a lot of things and

1092
00:38:55,849 --> 00:38:54,240
he gave his opinion so I think you have

1093
00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:55,859
to applaud Gary and I think I said as

1094
00:38:59,810 --> 00:38:57,660
much on Twitter that he sat there and

1095
00:39:02,690 --> 00:38:59,820
and gave his honest opinion yeah

1096
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,700
absolutely and I mean he he's right you

1097
00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:04,079
know some sometimes we feel like these

1098
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:05,700
people are fully embroiled in the behind

1099
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:06,900
the scenes stuff

1100
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,579
um if Gary is convinced that there's

1101
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:10,800
extra extra terrestrial visitation going

1102
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:13,500
on then that's his opinion you know no

1103
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:15,240
one can really snipe it in for that uh

1104
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:17,400
I'm sure people are online but again

1105
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,780
they should they should listen to the

1106
00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:21,119
why of it as opposed to

1107
00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:22,920
um just saying that it didn't happen if

1108
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:24,420
Gary was weeks away from getting access

1109
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:27,900
to a program that he somehow knew was

1110
00:39:32,569 --> 00:39:30,420
gonna give him access to a UFO

1111
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,579
um I almost had a real live UFO but that

1112
00:39:36,349 --> 00:39:34,320
may or may not be true depending on the

1113
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,359
theory you'd subscribe to

1114
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:38,160
um yeah then yeah I can absolutely

1115
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:41,160
understand why he'd say 100 obviously

1116
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,839
um you know I'd feel confident saying

1117
00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:45,359
100 would you

1118
00:39:50,569 --> 00:39:49,320
um 1995. yeah yeah enough yeah like but

1119
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:50,579
only in the sense of like it could be

1120
00:39:55,849 --> 00:39:53,700
something else right like yeah yeah sure

1121
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:55,859
yeah on that

1122
00:39:58,670 --> 00:39:57,240
um A lot's been made of this summer the

1123
00:40:01,490 --> 00:39:58,680
coming weeks and months potential

1124
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:01,500
whistleblowers Revelations hearings

1125
00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:02,700
um as I mentioned we were going to

1126
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:05,460
initially come on and talk about uh

1127
00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:07,380
what we're about to but the Gary Nolan

1128
00:40:10,510 --> 00:40:09,240
stuff happened I Dash you on Twitter

1129
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,520
again like I mentioned before

1130
00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:12,480
realistically what do you think's

1131
00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:14,520
actually going to happen this summer

1132
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:15,960
um I thought I'd bring it on here for

1133
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:17,700
this to discuss because it's interesting

1134
00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:19,800
conversation I hope for people I've got

1135
00:40:22,849 --> 00:40:21,240
some comments from the Discord and

1136
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,859
YouTube as well so thanks to anyone who

1137
00:40:27,650 --> 00:40:25,440
got in touch uh Dan I'm going to ask you

1138
00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:27,660
first okay so I'm going to ask you this

1139
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:29,700
summer not in terms of you know your

1140
00:40:34,250 --> 00:40:31,140
love life or you know your Starbucks

1141
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:34,260
drink getting made in terms of UAP UFOs

1142
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,260
what do you hope happens by the end of

1143
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,119
it what's the least likely thing to

1144
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,280
happen and what's the most likely thing

1145
00:40:47,089 --> 00:40:44,160
to happen so shall we go with hope first

1146
00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:47,099
so what do you what do you hope happens

1147
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:48,780
this summer and and we're being

1148
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,119
realistic in the hub right yeah okay

1149
00:40:57,710 --> 00:40:53,520
sure so realistic in the hub would be

1150
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:57,720
that we get our next report on time that

1151
00:41:02,569 --> 00:41:00,480
it's kind of a little more detailed than

1152
00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:02,579
past efforts have been you know based on

1153
00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:04,260
the hearings and the fact that

1154
00:41:08,569 --> 00:41:06,359
Kirkpatrick came prepared with bar

1155
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,579
graphs and you know he he had the data

1156
00:41:13,130 --> 00:41:11,040
down so I'm hoping we see it a little

1157
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:13,140
more filled out a bit more informative

1158
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,940
and

1159
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,800
more legislation coming out that

1160
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:18,300
basically fills all those gaps that were

1161
00:41:22,849 --> 00:41:20,820
identified during the hearings so for

1162
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:22,859
example given Arrow title 50 access

1163
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:25,260
where they only have title 10 now giving

1164
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:28,320
them some some harsher language they can

1165
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,820
use to

1166
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:31,680
do their job and label things and normal

1167
00:41:35,630 --> 00:41:33,300
us as opposed to just leaving them as

1168
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,640
unsolved in the archive

1169
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,160
we'll hopefully see more politicians

1170
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:39,839
becoming interested in this as it goes

1171
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:43,320
forward maybe it even comes up as

1172
00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:46,859
a kind of airspace security issue during

1173
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:49,320
the the kind of conversational run-up to

1174
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:51,960
the elections that are coming up and you

1175
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:53,460
know that would start early this year

1176
00:41:59,329 --> 00:41:56,339
and will also be

1177
00:42:01,849 --> 00:41:59,339
probably I mean they will be classified

1178
00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:01,859
breathings as we go that happen every

1179
00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:04,619
course or recording or because it's you

1180
00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:06,060
know dictated that needs to happen in

1181
00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:07,260
the legislation

1182
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:09,780
so our politicians will become more

1183
00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:11,339
informed as we kind of go forward every

1184
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:14,280
quarter and

1185
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,960
the most likely thing that can happen

1186
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:18,000
would be that we'll definitely be

1187
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:19,859
hearing more about Chinese balloons and

1188
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,680
seeing more things like that as we open

1189
00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:24,240
up these Radars and start trying to

1190
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,040
identify things that we we don't know

1191
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:30,650
um so I got hope and most did you have

1192
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:33,420
as least likely least likely is we're

1193
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:35,880
not going to see alien bodies after Gary

1194
00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:38,400
and his conversation I'm like could they

1195
00:42:43,609 --> 00:42:40,020
bring out a little chip of something and

1196
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:43,619
go here you go like there's your answer

1197
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:45,000
um you know there's my proof that I

1198
00:42:50,329 --> 00:42:47,579
worked on the Legacy program

1199
00:42:53,210 --> 00:42:50,339
maybe uh that feels a little more

1200
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:53,220
realistic after listening to Gary talk

1201
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:55,500
but I I wouldn't say we're gonna see

1202
00:42:58,970 --> 00:42:56,940
like a full Craft on the lawn of the

1203
00:43:01,730 --> 00:42:58,980
White House or alien bodies brought out

1204
00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:01,740
for testing so I'm going to quantify my

1205
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:04,680
what I hope happens by I'd be happy with

1206
00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:08,220
okay so what I hope happens is there are

1207
00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:10,020
hearings

1208
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:13,740
um they'll likely be closed doors and we

1209
00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:16,560
just hear bits from those and people

1210
00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:19,560
like your Timber sheds Christian Jilla

1211
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,780
Brands and others maybe come forward and

1212
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,040
talk about some of the things that are

1213
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:24,960
happening in the background but that

1214
00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:28,140
from those we get the hearings where the

1215
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:29,819
language gets pushed a little bit

1216
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:33,119
further forward in terms of non-human

1217
00:43:38,329 --> 00:43:36,420
enormous phenomena not adversarial Tech

1218
00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:38,339
some of that stuff we hear a Chris melon

1219
00:43:43,069 --> 00:43:40,619
a Louis zondo and others are Gary Nolan

1220
00:43:45,170 --> 00:43:43,079
say on podcasts and news networks but

1221
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:45,180
hear that in a political setting that

1222
00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:47,700
news big news networks set up and take

1223
00:43:52,970 --> 00:43:50,520
notice and start calling these folks out

1224
00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:52,980
on major networks just to really push

1225
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:55,560
that language into the public forum and

1226
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,140
that people start to hear ah non-humans

1227
00:44:02,569 --> 00:44:00,480
you mean like alien and just start to

1228
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:02,579
have that on the periphery

1229
00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:05,700
um that things can move forward at a

1230
00:44:08,750 --> 00:44:07,020
better pace and kind of open the

1231
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:08,760
floodgates a bit more if the Taps on and

1232
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:10,800
it's dripping the Titans turned a bit

1233
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:13,560
more to let more water start flowing

1234
00:44:18,589 --> 00:44:16,079
um that's my realistic hope

1235
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,599
the least likely thing to happen is that

1236
00:44:22,490 --> 00:44:20,880
we have any type of capital D disclosure

1237
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,500
as much as other people have said as

1238
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:23,760
much

1239
00:44:28,670 --> 00:44:26,760
um and that includes talking about Crash

1240
00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:28,680
retrieval programs I can't see it

1241
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:31,140
happening I want it to that's that would

1242
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:32,700
be a mega extreme

1243
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:34,740
can't see it happening

1244
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:40,010
I can't hear the word alien being used

1245
00:44:43,130 --> 00:44:41,220
that'll be one of the least likely

1246
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,140
things to happen

1247
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:47,210
and a lot of their stuff the least like

1248
00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:48,480
the thing is a lot this is made public

1249
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,060
as well as much as possible it'd be kept

1250
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:53,760
behind closed doors so then off the back

1251
00:44:59,809 --> 00:44:57,000
of that what is most likely to happen

1252
00:45:04,130 --> 00:44:59,819
is we get

1253
00:45:07,069 --> 00:45:04,140
honestly I think that escalations

1254
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:07,079
worldwide turn up a notch again in other

1255
00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:10,140
countries and it kind of goes on the

1256
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:13,319
back burner a bit because geopolitically

1257
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,380
it's not the Hot Topic and the news

1258
00:45:21,230 --> 00:45:18,359
media will be more interested even if

1259
00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:21,240
hearings happen and the fact that Russia

1260
00:45:25,970 --> 00:45:22,740
Ukraine's still happening China's

1261
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:25,980
getting involved U.S UK allies are

1262
00:45:31,069 --> 00:45:28,200
ramping up and supplying Ukraine

1263
00:45:32,809 --> 00:45:31,079
and it gets delayed and put on the back

1264
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:32,819
burner that is honestly where I can see

1265
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:34,980
it happening right now unless something

1266
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,200
big changes

1267
00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:39,780
um and if you aware for example the Air

1268
00:45:43,309 --> 00:45:41,640
Force looking to hold all this down or

1269
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,319
you know

1270
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,599
some bureaucrat that was that doesn't

1271
00:45:49,849 --> 00:45:47,940
want this stuff out then you can just

1272
00:45:51,770 --> 00:45:49,859
pin your your hopes on do you know what

1273
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:51,780
tensions are escalating elsewhere you're

1274
00:45:56,210 --> 00:45:52,859
not going to deal with that when you've

1275
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,220
got Russia pointing you know x y and z

1276
00:46:00,770 --> 00:45:58,560
using tactical nooks and Ukraine who's

1277
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:00,780
going to be talking about UFOs that's an

1278
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:02,940
easy way to dampen it down I hope not

1279
00:46:07,550 --> 00:46:06,480
but I think there's yeah I really don't

1280
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:07,560
know right now I don't know if you're

1281
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:09,960
the same or like I genuinely I can't be

1282
00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:11,640
as confident as a Stephen Bassett or a

1283
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:14,099
John Ramirez or or a Ross Coulter or

1284
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,420
whatever but

1285
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:18,240
looking at a Ross looking at uh a Gary

1286
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:20,520
Nolan they are infinitely more informed

1287
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,599
than we are

1288
00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:22,800
um I wouldn't speak for you but

1289
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,119
definitely me

1290
00:46:29,089 --> 00:46:25,520
um

1291
00:46:31,609 --> 00:46:29,099
yeah we knew that yeah but you know they

1292
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:31,619
they they're far better informed than we

1293
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:33,780
are and they see me things things are

1294
00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:36,960
coming that makes me confident

1295
00:46:43,730 --> 00:46:39,480
yeah exactly it like you said earlier

1296
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:45,829
reputations are on the line from some

1297
00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:47,160
people that I have a lot of respect for

1298
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:49,560
so I'd be very surprised if these things

1299
00:46:53,089 --> 00:46:51,660
didn't come to pass

1300
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:53,099
I'll read through some of the comments

1301
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,240
down and you can just give us your very

1302
00:46:58,089 --> 00:46:55,920
quick thoughts on them maybe even just

1303
00:47:01,690 --> 00:46:58,099
end up in a word at the end of the day

1304
00:47:05,809 --> 00:47:01,700
that's syllable for each yeah

1305
00:47:07,490 --> 00:47:05,819
so uh Junior on YouTube says I hope for

1306
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:07,500
a complete declassification an open

1307
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:09,060
discussion and all layers of all

1308
00:47:12,170 --> 00:47:10,079
societies

1309
00:47:13,690 --> 00:47:12,180
this is also the least likely scenario

1310
00:47:17,150 --> 00:47:13,700
so think of it

1311
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:17,160
yeah totally fair it must be Scottish

1312
00:47:20,089 --> 00:47:18,900
um probably two or three new pieces of

1313
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:20,099
information will come to light which

1314
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,420
will be largely ignored by all the

1315
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:22,920
people who are not already entrenched in

1316
00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:25,680
the subject sounds pretty fair and whole

1317
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:28,500
reasons yeah yeah

1318
00:47:31,730 --> 00:47:30,599
um read speed said and you know what

1319
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:31,740
I've not read these all in advance

1320
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:33,240
properly I skimmed them so I hope

1321
00:47:36,109 --> 00:47:34,560
something massively offensive doesn't

1322
00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:36,119
come up here

1323
00:47:41,569 --> 00:47:39,780
um read speed 7750 I hope thinking

1324
00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:41,579
logically like Spock really gains

1325
00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:43,560
momentum I think this is the least

1326
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:45,060
likely thing to happen in your English

1327
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:47,700
Earth man summer and most likely we will

1328
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:48,780
see an increase in homelessness

1329
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:51,599
especially in over 50s age group wow

1330
00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:54,720
Bleak but yeah I mean yeah true and yeah

1331
00:47:59,569 --> 00:47:57,480
yeah if you can if you can spare some

1332
00:48:02,030 --> 00:47:59,579
money to donate to local charities to

1333
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,040
help homeless folk do so yeah I always

1334
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:04,079
stuck a bag of food shopping I don't

1335
00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:05,520
need to be praised with a hero but some

1336
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:07,079
folks know that I'll put some stuff when

1337
00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:08,640
I'm in Tesco in that in the food banks

1338
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:10,680
because it's awful we have to we were

1339
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,119
going to say you like left a bag of food

1340
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:15,119
outside like for hedgehogs you know it's

1341
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:16,740
not like a it's not like I give a penny

1342
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:18,180
take a penny I buy something and put it

1343
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,440
I didn't take something I want no I

1344
00:48:31,390 --> 00:48:21,119
don't do that

1345
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,770
yeah sorry you're probably not based in

1346
00:48:38,569 --> 00:48:36,240
the UK but you know who you are now set

1347
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:38,579
your name so many times this summer I

1348
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:40,260
hope what will happen is full disclosure

1349
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,200
the least likely thing to happen is full

1350
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,359
disclosure and what is most likely to

1351
00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:47,040
happen is and I like this Lou

1352
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:48,839
Alexander's book comes out and hints at

1353
00:48:59,089 --> 00:48:57,050
um I've got to read out snapshot PT

1354
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:59,099
always the same old story next summer

1355
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:00,480
will be the one and it never happens

1356
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,140
it's the UFO topic and you yeah post

1357
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,240
that again next year yeah can't can't

1358
00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:08,400
deny that you know we always say it's a

1359
00:49:12,290 --> 00:49:10,560
long game but for some it's it's a

1360
00:49:15,650 --> 00:49:12,300
little too long and yeah it's getting

1361
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:15,660
tiresome for for a lot of people yeah

1362
00:49:19,849 --> 00:49:18,000
um Glenn Wilson I hope the government's

1363
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:19,859
holding these secrets open up I least

1364
00:49:23,569 --> 00:49:22,020
expect them to uh it looks like I have

1365
00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:23,579
mistrusting governments and quite

1366
00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:26,819
rightly so so yeah yeah nice

1367
00:49:30,770 --> 00:49:28,980
um hope for the best this summer I hope

1368
00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:30,780
independent Witnesses with footage and

1369
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,339
testimony will move forward into the

1370
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:34,319
public kept safe and that their stories

1371
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:36,000
will cause Congress to go full board

1372
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:37,140
with building a bridge to real

1373
00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:39,780
disclosure the least likely thing that

1374
00:49:43,790 --> 00:49:41,640
will happen is to see any real change in

1375
00:49:45,230 --> 00:49:43,800
those actual Powers wanting to do

1376
00:49:47,210 --> 00:49:45,240
anything that might undermine their

1377
00:49:49,309 --> 00:49:47,220
power and the most likely things to

1378
00:49:51,230 --> 00:49:49,319
happen will be one more crackling of new

1379
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:51,240
honest footage to continually spark the

1380
00:49:57,170 --> 00:49:54,480
conversation and to more

1381
00:49:58,609 --> 00:49:57,180
yeah so I won't read the comment on the

1382
00:50:00,829 --> 00:49:58,619
weaponized podcast because I like

1383
00:50:02,650 --> 00:50:00,839
weaponized by George and uh Jeremy but

1384
00:50:04,849 --> 00:50:02,660
yeah if that's your opinion fair enough

1385
00:50:07,370 --> 00:50:04,859
I can't even get a sense of what that

1386
00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:07,380
was yeah like I say I didn't fully read

1387
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:09,540
these before Super Fan yeah super fun

1388
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:10,800
yeah

1389
00:50:17,089 --> 00:50:14,640
stuff you put on there and that thing

1390
00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:17,099
about no footage listen I'd be over the

1391
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,020
moon if at the end of the summer we had

1392
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,599
another Tic Tac gimbal you know type

1393
00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:23,280
video and I don't mean the other stuff

1394
00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:25,920
that's being brought out by others I

1395
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:28,140
mean something literally

1396
00:50:32,510 --> 00:50:30,180
you know again like like we had there

1397
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:32,520
something really meaty

1398
00:50:37,069 --> 00:50:34,440
um that wasn't instantly dismissable as

1399
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:37,079
an assho would be good

1400
00:50:42,970 --> 00:50:40,200
um yeah yeah exactly just something that

1401
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:42,980
hints one of the observables in a really

1402
00:50:46,849 --> 00:50:45,240
non-debatable way would be wonderful

1403
00:50:49,069 --> 00:50:46,859
yeah

1404
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:49,079
um and a couple from the Discord Channel

1405
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:50,760
as well thanks to anyone who took time

1406
00:50:55,370 --> 00:50:53,640
to post them over there Mike says uh

1407
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,380
this summer I hope what will happen is

1408
00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:57,599
uh DOD or related Department

1409
00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:59,880
whistleblower will take an official

1410
00:51:04,849 --> 00:51:02,640
ET public oh we'll take an official ET

1411
00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:04,859
encounter public I was going to say I

1412
00:51:08,569 --> 00:51:06,300
thought he was hoping they get abducted

1413
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:08,579
and but yeah so we'll take an official

1414
00:51:12,349 --> 00:51:10,200
18 counter public yeah so someone from

1415
00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:12,359
the dod to see what choice would you

1416
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:15,059
would you get abducted no no no no no no

1417
00:51:20,410 --> 00:51:19,140
too much to do not again

1418
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:20,420
um

1419
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:22,500
controversial and that's where they

1420
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,700
that's what I should play the UFO

1421
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,200
clapping the podcast just Fades out

1422
00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:27,119
people's like oh part two coming next

1423
00:51:31,849 --> 00:51:29,640
week all for clicks

1424
00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:31,859
um LOL I think the least likely thing to

1425
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:34,020
happen still Mike is a DOD whistleblower

1426
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:35,760
will take an official 18 counter public

1427
00:51:38,750 --> 00:51:37,260
I like a lot of people putting the most

1428
00:51:40,370 --> 00:51:38,760
and least likely thing is exactly the

1429
00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:40,380
same yeah the same thing I generally

1430
00:51:44,089 --> 00:51:41,880
never thought that might happen and um

1431
00:51:46,430 --> 00:51:44,099
the most likely thing is the Pentagon or

1432
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:46,440
congress reveals that an AI driven UFO

1433
00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:48,180
Factory is active in the Atlantic Ocean

1434
00:51:52,270 --> 00:51:50,280
and has been for decades oh that's an

1435
00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,280
unfortune thing right

1436
00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:55,020
someone posted something on 4chan where

1437
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:57,000
supposedly it's a lap like I read it and

1438
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,680
I thought it was someone laughing as

1439
00:52:01,430 --> 00:52:00,240
well which is like live action role play

1440
00:52:02,569 --> 00:52:01,440
if someone's never heard of it that's

1441
00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:02,579
listening

1442
00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:05,099
um and yeah it had details about

1443
00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:08,280
uh things like

1444
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,500
how the crafts work and you know who the

1445
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,240
aliens are and so on so forth and part

1446
00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:14,640
of it was that there's a UFO Factory in

1447
00:52:19,130 --> 00:52:16,740
the Atlantic Ocean that's just kind of

1448
00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:19,140
making these I guess volume one probes

1449
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:21,540
as Gary explained it in salt

1450
00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:24,559
um or at Salt but yeah

1451
00:52:31,010 --> 00:52:27,480
far-fetched though you know and 4chan

1452
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:31,020
has a reputation of this kind of lapping

1453
00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:33,420
um broken clock is right twice a day I

1454
00:52:37,549 --> 00:52:35,220
mean yeah there's that so you got to

1455
00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:37,559
hold it very lightly um it sounds like a

1456
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:39,720
good movie anyway yeah

1457
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,700
um dalamar said Stephen Bassett stole

1458
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,200
the word right out of my mouth in his

1459
00:52:47,329 --> 00:52:45,599
recent talk with you Andy I hope this

1460
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,339
summer there is a form of plain vanilla

1461
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:48,960
disclosure where they're forced out or

1462
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,760
voluntarily provided that creates the

1463
00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:52,559
Holy Grail of disclosure discourse the

1464
00:52:56,569 --> 00:52:54,780
topic becoming an agenda for a US

1465
00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:56,579
presidential election cycle which is a

1466
00:52:59,809 --> 00:52:57,900
really interesting take on it and I was

1467
00:53:01,309 --> 00:52:59,819
I was glad to even brought that up

1468
00:53:02,990 --> 00:53:01,319
and you mentioned it before Dan about

1469
00:53:04,609 --> 00:53:03,000
the Electoral cycle in the US checking

1470
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:04,619
off and forcing it into the Public

1471
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,420
Square to be debated openly in a

1472
00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:08,400
presidential election cycle and by doing

1473
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:11,220
so allowing other Western democracies to

1474
00:53:14,809 --> 00:53:12,900
follow suit in their own election Cycles

1475
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:14,819
then yes or no

1476
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,260
um is it going to be discussed in the

1477
00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:18,000
upcoming presidential as are they called

1478
00:53:22,190 --> 00:53:20,280
primaries and elections yeah can you see

1479
00:53:23,569 --> 00:53:22,200
this being you'll have run-ups to

1480
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:23,579
primaries and run-ups to the election

1481
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:30,589
um hey I've seen The West Wing they need

1482
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:35,390
um

1483
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:37,380
yes I think it will come up but it will

1484
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,660
be framed as necessary UAP it'll be

1485
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:41,520
framed around the Chinese balloon and

1486
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,980
airspace incursions which really is how

1487
00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:46,319
we've been talking about UAP since 2017

1488
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:47,640
anyway

1489
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:48,839
um so you don't think anyone will

1490
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:50,400
mention aliens in any way shape or form

1491
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:52,380
no I don't think so but we will talk

1492
00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:54,839
about unidentified objects in the sky

1493
00:53:58,490 --> 00:53:56,700
that we need to tackle in under the

1494
00:54:00,290 --> 00:53:58,500
Guides of airspace security yeah cool I

1495
00:54:02,270 --> 00:54:00,300
I would think even our Kirsten

1496
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,280
gillibrand if she ran for president and

1497
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,319
was asked up front in some kind of

1498
00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:06,240
debate you know you're an advocate of

1499
00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:08,280
the UAP topic do you think any of these

1500
00:54:13,370 --> 00:54:10,980
could possibly be an alien technology I

1501
00:54:14,809 --> 00:54:13,380
think she would like USA will talk about

1502
00:54:17,329 --> 00:54:14,819
you know there are things in our skies

1503
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:17,339
that we have to look at closely and it

1504
00:54:20,690 --> 00:54:18,720
would be framed that way she wouldn't

1505
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:20,700
come over and say yes and I think she'd

1506
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,440
probably be silly to it this time yeah

1507
00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:24,240
we know the game by this point right we

1508
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:25,859
know how they're framing things and and

1509
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:26,940
that's the way they want to talk about

1510
00:54:30,530 --> 00:54:29,160
it and yeah fine it gets us to the same

1511
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,540
place which is figuring out what these

1512
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:32,880
things in the sky are

1513
00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:34,740
um and the last one Mr Calhoun from

1514
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,900
Discord this summer I hope will happen

1515
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:38,640
is an admission of the presence of a

1516
00:54:42,290 --> 00:54:40,319
form of non-human Intelligence on Earth

1517
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,300
pretty straightforward but yeah that's

1518
00:54:45,890 --> 00:54:44,400
that's the one we want I think the least

1519
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,900
likely thing to happen is that you can

1520
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:47,520
walk Carefree on the sidewalk and a

1521
00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:49,140
great alien bodysuit without having to

1522
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:51,480
face public ridicule as I always like to

1523
00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:52,740
say disclosure hasn't really happened

1524
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,040
until you can and the though I think the

1525
00:55:00,349 --> 00:54:58,079
most likely thing to happen is some

1526
00:55:02,930 --> 00:55:00,359
fantastic euphorologist Valencia uh

1527
00:55:04,130 --> 00:55:02,940
Balenciaga memes and AI generated oh

1528
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:04,140
okay

1529
00:55:09,049 --> 00:55:06,420
um some fantastic ufologist memes and AI

1530
00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:09,059
generated testimonies as well so

1531
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:12,420
probably and until the Walking them down

1532
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:13,680
the sidewalk comment without being

1533
00:55:17,630 --> 00:55:15,960
laughed at go go to New York do it there

1534
00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:17,640
no one will laugh at you it's full of

1535
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:19,740
characters people will just kind of go

1536
00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:21,480
Yep this is New York and just walk

1537
00:55:25,130 --> 00:55:23,700
straight past the gray so if any hybrids

1538
00:55:27,170 --> 00:55:25,140
are listening they'll move to New York

1539
00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:27,180
they wouldn't notice you and then to

1540
00:55:32,089 --> 00:55:28,500
finish off you want to discover our

1541
00:55:33,770 --> 00:55:32,099
Brazilians at UFO Brazilians yeah that's

1542
00:55:36,829 --> 00:55:33,780
right so what was the name of the place

1543
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,839
about that James Fox documentary moment

1544
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:37,920
of contact

1545
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,780
Virginia

1546
00:55:43,849 --> 00:55:42,480
so you'll be glad to know because we

1547
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,859
were saying that it kind of gives you a

1548
00:55:46,250 --> 00:55:45,359
heart attack everything you had to say

1549
00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:46,260
it

1550
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:50,040
um you you'd say Virginia there's no in

1551
00:55:55,370 --> 00:55:53,460
there then I sound pretentious it

1552
00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:55,380
depends literally so Spanish-speaking

1553
00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:57,240
countries they will pronounce certain

1554
00:56:01,069 --> 00:55:58,800
letters differently so like you know

1555
00:56:02,809 --> 00:56:01,079
some people say bathalona I was going to

1556
00:56:04,910 --> 00:56:02,819
give the example of Barcelona literally

1557
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:04,920
that's just the dialect so if you're not

1558
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,660
necessarily pretentious it just means

1559
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,160
you're from a certain area and that's

1560
00:56:14,089 --> 00:56:10,559
how they say that letter so yeah you can

1561
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:14,099
always pretend being from Glasgow I'm

1562
00:56:19,849 --> 00:56:17,119
going to have to stick with my Virginia

1563
00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:19,859
pronunciation for all your fans out

1564
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,819
there

1565
00:56:24,829 --> 00:56:22,559
um but yeah that is fair would you like

1566
00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,839
to hear a chat GPC joke

1567
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:26,339
go on

1568
00:56:30,190 --> 00:56:28,140
why did the aliens throw beef on the

1569
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:30,200
asteroid

1570
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:33,780
he wanted it a little meatier that is

1571
00:56:37,790 --> 00:56:35,700
all for this week's show thank you very

1572
00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:37,800
much for listening please remember to

1573
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:39,720
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1574
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,960
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1575
00:56:46,730 --> 00:56:44,640
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1576
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:46,740
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1577
00:56:50,990 --> 00:56:48,839
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1578
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:51,000
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00:56:56,270 --> 00:56:53,819
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1581
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1582
00:57:04,609 --> 00:57:01,940
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1583
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,619
ufo-u-a-p-a-m and again folks as always

1584
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,480
keep looking up you never know what you

1585
00:57:35,330 --> 00:57:08,160
might see

1586
00:57:35,340 --> 00:58:04,569
[Music]

1587
00:58:16,490 --> 00:58:06,650
there was something on my head and

1588
00:58:44,170 --> 00:58:38,860
[Music]

1589
00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:52,400
open your mind

1590
00:59:04,260 --> 00:59:02,210
[Music]

1591
00:59:27,690 --> 00:59:04,270
not quite as awesome

1592
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:35,829
[Music]

1593
00:59:47,930 --> 00:59:39,170
it's experience